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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

"I don't often have opinions informed enough to contribute..."


pretty much sums up most of the miscreants on this forum. welcome, and please join in when the feeling strikes.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 6:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Thanks for all the welcomes! Yes, early eighties and then sporadically thereafter, last show I saw was September 1990 in Philly. I don't have much recollection of that one really, but the pieces of it on youtube are pretty awful. I saw shows in New Haven, Hartford and New York - and maybe Boston but I can't remember for sure between about '81 and '84. I don't really know what got me suddenly listening to them again, maybe it was Obama talking about China Cat Sunflower, but all of a sudden I was drawn back in. my family thinks I've gone crazy. I'm out of touch with college deadhead friends and should really try to find them again. I feel like saying, Now I get it!! now that it's too late ...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

it is never, ever too late to get it.

(well, except in the case of WTell regaining any semblance of rationality, but that is another issue altogether)

In fact, i am still looking for it. have no idea where is left the damn thing!


p.s. Obama mentioned China Cat?? I must have missed this one - damn!

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

I just mean too late to hear them live ... I try not to think about that 'cus it's kind of heartbreaking, and I reproach my younger self for not having a clue the enormousness of what I was hearing at the time!! I had a college housemate who followed them, and when they came around, he handed out tickets freely and we all piled in the car, some people acting like it was a religious pilgrimage and some of us (me) just going 'cus it was going to be a good time. I enjoyed the partying and the music but I can't say I really "got it" at the time.

I heard Obama said his favorite song was China Cat. I'm not sure where I heard that, or if it's true. I wondered if he tried to pick a song that was sort of . . . not too druggy sounding for the president of the United States to admit to liking. Then I looked up the lyrics to China Cat LOL.

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Poster: Mosquito Date: Oct 30, 2009 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

... echoing but with a slightly different point:

It's never to late to get them. Granted, you can't go see the Dead now and even the Dead aren't the Dead, but the fact of the evolution has always been there.

The shows I went to were in the '80's too, but living in the center of the continent and always having other things to be responsible for meant that I only got to a few shows. Fast-forward to Fall 2007. Living in the Bay Area, I was bored one Sunday and knew Phil was going to be at the Greek. At the last minute, I say "Well, why not? Let's go see what Phil's up to."

Crossed the BA, parking sucked, walked in late, prolly on the third song. Go in, find a spot and start checking it all out. I'm checking out the crowd and the people on stage. I recognise most of them up there, but go "Who's that on keyboards? And who's this guy on keyboards and guitar and singing?" After the show I'm like, "So who *is* this guy??" It wasn't a great show, but I was still impressed.

So I find out the last show was in Southern California and the next show is the following Saturday... at Red Rocks ... followed by Santa Fe ... I'm thinking, "I could do it." But no, I didn't even do that in the '80's or '90's when I was young and it was the Dead. This was 'just Phil' and some other guys and it didn't sound 'right'. But, but... but it was still good and it was interesting and, regardless of everything else it was still the same crowd and the same songs.

Damnit. By Monday I was hooked again. I shouldn't do it, but I *could*. I could drive to Red Rocks and Santa Fe and get back to work the following day. And my car was good and I had disposable income (and the economy hadn't crashed yet). On Tuesday I knew I shouldn't but I also knew I would. Whirlwind weekend and then they went too far east. But then I had friends from high school on the east coast ... one show's on the weekend and 'in range' in upstate New York. I do it. Another great weekend.

And then 'those young guys' have their own bands... and they're pretty good in their own ways. And New Year's Eve! And Phil's going to Portland, and an ex who I wouldn't mind visiting lives there ... and Mardi Gras and surprise! Deadheads for Obama! And Denver and LA and they're going to close the Warfield?? And Ratdog and the Mule and Mickey and Donna (yes, Donna) and and Grisman in a sleepy town on the coast and Wake the Dead (Celtic Dead??) and and and ... oh, why had I zoned out and away from the music for so long?

And WTF? None of this is the Dead. Yes, the Boys (and Girl) could still pull it out and put it down but it wasn't the same. *But* these young guys and these other other guys really were finding new things in these old songs I'd heard hundreds of times and I was liking it.

Somewhere in all of that I realised I'd been sad and afraid that sometime soon we'd be left at 'it's all over now' and I just didn't want to face that. I also realised that the Dead always changed, it'd never been like it was before and that now it's not just one band that I might get lucky enough to see but a decent bunch of them.

Yeah, the Dead is dead, but now the Dead is much more than the Dead, so it's never going to be too late to get the Dead.

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 31, 2009 10:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Very inspiring!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

ahhh - got ya. misinterpretation error on my part.


i will have a whole new respect for our pres is he really does like that tune :) would be right up there with Clinton's sax playing

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Poster: Mosquito Date: Oct 31, 2009 12:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Oh, I forgot to post this:

Billy said that Obama said that China Cat is his favorite: http://www.cincygroove.com/?q=node/1236

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Poster: DianaW Date: Oct 31, 2009 10:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Thanks for finding that, I knew I read that somewhere about China Cat. Cool...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Earlier this year I actually tracked down my college deadhead friend who gave me my first tapes and turned me on to the band beyond radio cuts. Kind of told him the same thing.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Oct 30, 2009 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Methinks there is a lot of new dna in the pool

Obama mentioned China Cat Sunflower? is that his favorite GD song? I hope he didn't use it to prove a political point...

Given his aptitude at massaging our psyches with his speech I wouldn't be overly surprised...